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Post  Blanci on Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:03 am

AWBW has been down and up and now permanently down (? who knows?) for 3 weeks or more and its looking Grim.
The previous admin and marriner appear to be just busy with other projects .  I emailed marriner last week and offered to help in any way  (to cover server costs or whatever or even to take over site management but havent heard back as yet.  
Jake Ruiz similarly offered to help (mentioned in this fórum), presumably no luck there either so far.

The worst thing really is that we have no idea what is going on . So I think we must suppose that nothing much is likely to happen with AWBW coming  back.

Please anyone with any news about AWBW please post here.
Also anyone who knows how to contact marriner please do so and with the backing of myself and many more less vocal but equally keen enthusiasts of AW and the AWBW implementation. I didnt yet try twitter to contact marriner !?


Note:The global league had some 80 active players with multiple games (and another 40 or so inactive accounts) plus AWBW had 30 or players in the special leagues plus a number of other random games and many multiplayer maps.
So AWBW was definitely still flying though not as high as years back.

I encourage all AWBW fans to join with all AW fans and we must now think more widely about AW and the very similar games such as panzer general and others going back before gameboy even.  
For example I found a website not used much in 3 years called Space Cows which without the cows is basically AW but without certain features like CO powers, fog. Also the units are somewhat difficult to differentiate.  This and other similar AW stuff is properly announced elsewhere in this sub Fórum  "AW News".

We probably now need to distinguish between marriners AWBW and more general "Online AW" which of course are quite different from "AW" --which a lot of people will interpret as the GBA games against the AI -- the latter is really a bit dull for experienced online players who only like to play against humans because it is more fun and of course the GB AI just cant handle high complexity of decent size AW maps. (making AW superior to chess as strategy game)

So until further AWBW news, I adjourn effort to other threads under AW or online AW.

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Post  Blanci on Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:19 pm

AWBW has been back up a couple of weeks now. But we lost another chunk of players . Possibly including FANG.  He probably didnt even know about this forum?

one good sign, i got this message on main site
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hi blanci

is there anything we could do to keep the awbw site going? or are
there any other alternatives?

it seems to be crashing more and more frequently, doesn't look
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Nice to hear someone cares.
We need to organise people.  Ive been contributing to the new forum

http://www.takeyourturn.net/f29-advance-wars-fire-emblem

and the wiki thingy in left margin.Actually we should send the new forum link above  to ALL users here at AWBW by messaging them-
I wonder if theres a fast way to do that?

Let me know if you have any other  ideas.
cheers

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Post  Best Sakuya NA on Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:53 pm

A mass message to AWBW users that there's a new forum would be great, yeah. Not sure who would have the power to do that though.
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Post  strike1 on Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:28 pm

I don't mind volunteering to msg everyone on the league individually but do we have a plan after we alert them to the existence of this forum?

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Post  strike1 on Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:13 pm

Blanci and mori, let's start an email chain so we can discuss further in more detail, my email is ctseung@gmail.com . guys, feel free to send a private email and I'll add you to the chain as well.

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Post  strike1 on Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:47 am

I sent a quick msg to people currently on the league. But it also means those not on the league will not have received it.

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Post  Blanci on Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:18 pm

heres the message that strike sent folks :
   

From: Strike
Hello
Mori has created a new awbw forum because the old one has crashed.

http://www.takeyourturn.net/f29-advance-wars-fire-emblem

Please bookmark the page and add to favourites because as you may
have noticed, the website has become increasingly unstable this year. If
the website goes down again, we want to keep the remaining awbw
players informed.

This will give us a chance to re-group with a loyal base of players if a
solution can be found.

Please pass this message to your friends.
Regards,
Strike
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Good job.
Yeah the end objectives are not totally clear at present.
The emails and messages are ok but there are many reasons why I think it is much better to have all the discussion and debate in an open forum. (as much as possible anyway) I ll try t give all the reasons later.
Another thing..  Fang told me about a chinese AW AWBW? forum some time ago but even with google translate i could barely decipher anything. Now mxdcy2000 tells me there are some 100 plus ! players on their chinese forum and he passes on this sakuya forum link to fang and presumably others there--  Also part? of the chinese forum may be in english soon
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From: mxdcyw2000
Now we plan to transform something into English for that aw players who use English.
If finishing, we will write to you soon.
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Post  strike1 on Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:26 pm

Things we probably should do

1. Alerting the awbw community

2. Get together a group of willing volunteers

3. Work out what the possible issues / solutions are, and delegate according to who can help in what role. Things mentioned in the past by blanci / mori based on a browsing of the posts:
- site management
- server costs
- deleting maps / inactive users + finding people who know how to do this
- in the past things were done behind the backs of the awbw community so need for transparency

I also suspect aaron marriner sees this site as his project (and it is), and it is connected to the amarriner.com website. We'll likely need to work with him rather than try to take over the site

4. Contact aaron marriner and see what he says could be done. We could always set up a twitter account

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Post  Divva on Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:37 am

yeah a Chinese AW forum with many AWBWers exists, actually i'm a moderator of it. nano.RIPE fan is my currently active user name on AWBW.

but we can't alter that forum much because it is run by Baidu, a company like google, we don't acutally own it. it might be complicated for non-Chinese users.

My email address is chenhan1990520@hotmail.com. I'm glad to be in touch with every here. We are also fond of any information about AWBW. But Chinese network bans twitter & facebook, we have limited ways to find and reach amarriner.

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Post  strike1 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:41 am

Thanks Divva

We need a bridge between this forum and the chinese one, if there is important news on either end to send across.

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Post  strike1 on Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:06 am

We should plan for what is difficult while it is still easy. It's already a bit late in the game to try to fix things, but awbw is not down permanently yet so there's still hope.

Blanci, I am willing to volunteer to set up a twitter acc to contact amarriner, but we should discuss between us to come up with a plan that we can put forward, or things we should discuss with him before we do so.

Drawback is I am not familiar with how to run a site, who is willing to volunteer to do what, whether financial contributions are needed but one of us should definitely have a chat to aaron marriner to see what the problems / issues are from his point of view and share it with the rest of the community.

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Post  Best Sakuya NA on Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:27 am

Yeah, we clearly need some form of a link to amarriner, it's just difficult to establish that it seems. Sorry for being so busy recently, helping a relative with some medical issues and getting my car fixed right now.
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Post  Iordor on Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:12 pm

Get on steam - he sits around playing games all day on there.
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Post  NDA|D007 on Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:19 pm

Divva wrote:yeah a Chinese AW forum with many AWBWers exists, actually i'm a moderator of it. nano.RIPE fan is my currently active user name on AWBW.

Good battle the other day Smile

It probably goes without saying but it seems AWBW has been down for a couple of days now. Does anyone know when it might be back up?
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Post  Iordor on Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:44 pm



Asked him about an hour ago, and he responded with this. I'd expect it to be back up in a couple more hours.
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Re: Current State of AWBW and AW (June 2014)

Post  Divva on Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:53 pm

NDA|D007 wrote:
Divva wrote:yeah a Chinese AW forum with many AWBWers exists, actually i'm a moderator of it. nano.RIPE fan is my currently active user name on AWBW.

Good battle the other day Smile

It probably goes without saying but it seems AWBW has been down for a couple of days now. Does anyone know when it might be back up?

yeah, that's a nice game. Smile
Hope the site back early, we can play again.

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Post  NDA|D007 on Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:33 am

Yes, indeed. Looking forward to our next game Smile

Thanks for that Iordor. Let's hope for the best.
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Post  Iordor on Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:16 am

Apparently he got it working this morning for a bit, but there's still on going server issues...

In the mean time I found this game: http://www.silverwaregames.com/strategery2012/ it's AW redone around the 2012 primary election in the US.  bounce 
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Post  Divva on Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:19 pm

hey everyone, the site's back again.

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Post  Blanci on Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:39 pm

Thanks Iordor for all the info. You are a star.

I havent got twitter yet , i m a bit slow with stuff like that,
But please everyone with twitter let Marriner know theres plenty of players with high motivation to continue AWBW including many chinese with their own forum dedicated to awbw. And also theres a bunch of us willing to pay server costs and whatever else and do whatever else. If we need programmers we can get them.

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Post  Iordor on Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:10 pm

Blanci wrote:Thanks Iordor for all the info.   You are a star.

I havent  got twitter yet , i m a bit slow with stuff like that,
But please everyone with twitter let Marriner know theres plenty of players with high motivation to continue AWBW including many chinese with their own forum dedicated to awbw.  And also theres a bunch of us willing to pay server costs and whatever else and do whatever else. If we need programmers we can get them.

NP, I try to be constructive, and help out the community.  I love you 

I was a little repulsed by the idea of twitter myself, and thought it was for attention whores/thoughtless people who couldn't write more than a sentence, but after being on it for about a week I can tell you it's about the best online tool for networking, spreading/filtering/processing large amounts of information, and getting things done online - I now know why all those revolutions happened on the site, and recommend everyone to get one.

I will link him to your post if you want, but he's probably going to need more information like who these people are, how to contact them, and the websites. Personally, I think a kickstarter would be cool, and he could even put awards to make it more worth while to help him get better servers, and upgrade the game - I'm sure there's some persian prince around here who could throw money his way.  farao 
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Re: Current State of AWBW and AW (June 2014)

Post  Blanci on Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:56 am

at Iordor... which "revolutions" ?
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do you mean setting up the global league? or the ladder?

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Re: Current State of AWBW and AW (June 2014)

Post  Iordor on Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:53 pm

The arab spring revolutions, http://www.wired.com/2013/04/arabspring/

is your second comment to me?
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Post  Blanci on Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:15 pm

Laughing iordor wrote
all those revolutions happened on the site

I thought you meant awbw site lol

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Post  Iordor on Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:37 pm

No, that was the old meebo chat with me, sulla, zovea, and ECK! Razz

But, yeah I'll tweet him your post.
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