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[outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

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[outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

Post  Best Sakuya NA on Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:00 pm

In an effort to be a bit more transparent about Global League changes and feedback, I've started a poll here on GL Maps in general.

To be clear here, the discussion here will not directly affect the Global League map list, nor will my decisions as the head of the Map Committee be solely determined by this thread.

What this is for is for me to know which maps to focus on for community discussion. Which maps do you like? Which maps do you hate? Which maps do you think are not suited for the Global League, and much more importantly, why?

I am very, very knowledgeable in both AWBW mapping as well as competitive play, and have been here for many years, but I will simultaneously try my best to respect the community and its collective knowledge and experience.




Vote for any maps that you think do not deserve to be in the Global League, and post why you think this. I will then focus on explaining my reasoning on why they are there based on my knowledge and experience, and why I have put or kept them there. The vote will literally do nothing if you do not also post here explaining why you voted as you did, this is about discussion, not numbers. This is to open up a dialogue and hopefully increase our collective knowledge on Global League maps.

This is not a thread about handing Global League control to the community, I've seen that work out very badly for communities in the past, and that will never happen here.

The Map Committee will still control this process 100%, but I will use these threads to keep an open ear to the community's suggestions and ideas, and respond in as timely a manner as I can manage.

Poll for GL as of July 13, 2014
2014-07-13

  1. Agitated
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=56121
  2. All Roads Lead to Sol
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=58092
  3. Aphotic Arena
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=52913
  4. Apocalyptic
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=57041
  5. Arcadepunk
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=60053
  6. Bel'Shir Beach
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=58205
  7. Beyond Eternity
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=50817
  8. Bible Black
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=41629
  9. Black Patch War
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=56664
  10. Blood on my Hands
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=28759
  11. Border Patrol
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=60802
  12. Defiled Logic
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=57919
  13. Highway To Hell
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=51447
  14. Iconic
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=54880
  15. Iskander
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=61226
  16. Masked Fury
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=56661
  17. nb4DS
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=34791
  18. Off Guard
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=61077
  19. Rend the Earth
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=59292
  20. Shadows chase you endlessly
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=50841
  21. Shangri-La
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=45557
  22. String Theory
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=61222
  23. Titans Rise GL
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=62324
  24. Truth Is
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=57364



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Re: [outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

Post  Iordor on Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:53 pm

Definitely border patrol - the map is boring, hard to push with your forces(mostly because there's really nothing important to push for), and centers around highly coordinated/calculated infantry decisions on your flanks.

Even if you do win on your flanks, and get an extra city, or two; your opponent can still easily drag the game on for another 20-30 moves because it's not really worth going for the win: it's too risky, and complicated to make a push on that small choky map with hardly any resources to fight for, and it would just as likely leave your army destroyed as it would be for you to win when you do finally go for it.
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Re: [outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

Post  Best Sakuya NA on Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:31 am

Thank you for posting, Iordor. I will wait to see if and when other players post here before posting my thoughts on that particular map, but I thought you should know that I have read that post, I appreciate the thoughts, and now know that is a map I should focus my efforts on to help the community better enjoy AWBW.

If anyone else has any thoughts on the Global League maps in the meantime, go for it. That is the purpose of this thread, essentially somewhere between gathering data and a Q&A session on Global League maps. Recent events in other games I am involved with have helped to remind me that players appreciate a bit of transparency and communication, and plan on focusing on that more in the future.
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Re: [outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

Post  Blanci on Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:49 am

Wow thats a long list for most players to go through. Maybe people wont have time to check over all these. Also most maps are quite nice but they have just been played a lot by now, at least by people who have been around a while like me. and i would prefer most of them to be changed or at least plenty of newer maps included. Also just saying which maps we dont want is a bit negative.

It might be more positive just to ask players to mention a couple of  maps that they would like to see continue on the list and say why they should be kept.
(i already mentioned "iskander" and "truth is" in the other thread about global league maps. Wondering if you saw that post? )


Also many active players may know of some new maps which are fun and play well and each player should suggest a couple of new maps for consideration.
(Of course any suggestions are going to need to be checked over for balance, recon rush problems and whatever.)


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Re: [outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

Post  Best Sakuya NA on Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:28 pm

Yeah, of course, I understand Blanci. I just figured I'd start off simple for now and see where things go. Sorry for my significant absence as of late, I am participating in a tournament for an online card game currently, and it has unfortunately taken up much of my time, on top of my existing money issues, haha. Plus I'll be helping a relative with some medical issues from Wednesday to possibly Friday. But rest assured, I am reading everything I can find on these forums, but sometimes it might take a little bit of time for me to respond.
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Re: [outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

Post  Iordor on Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:20 pm

I'm honestly on the same boat as you right now Mori, though it's hearthstone for me. These games are addicting as crack, lol.
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Re: [outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

Post  Best Sakuya NA on Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:02 pm

I've been moving up and down between Rank 12 and Rank 17 worldwide in IW, so I'm doing well enough to care about how this tournament plays out, unfortunately. Just beat two of the previous top 10 players yesterday and the day before, both 2-0 in a best of 3.

But yeah, I want to obviously focus on AWBW too, hence threads like these.
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Re: [outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

Post  bbzee on Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:02 am

We need more map like Sahara, I can't think of any memorable league map beside Sahara right now. If anyone knows any other map that's like Sahara, please do tell me.

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Re: [outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

Post  Blanci on Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:51 pm

bbzee wrote:We need more map like Sahara, I can't think of any memorable league map beside Sahara right now. If anyone knows any other map that's like Sahara, please do tell me.

please give link....
the map Sahara doesnt appear in the lists given earlier in this thread
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PS ? maybe this thread was out of date anyway and this discussion would be better in more recent global league map topics?

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Re: [outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

Post  bbzee on Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:56 am

Blanci wrote:
bbzee wrote:We need more map like Sahara, I can't think of any memorable league map beside Sahara right now. If anyone knows any other map that's like Sahara, please do tell me.



please give link....
the map Sahara doesnt appear in the lists given earlier in this thread
cheers

PS ? maybe this thread was out of date anyway and this discussion would be better in more recent global league map topics?


Sahara
http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=30765

The map has been retired from global league, you have to wait another season in order it to be active again.

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Re: [outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

Post  Best Sakuya NA on Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:08 pm

Yeah Sahara is an amazing map. It honestly felt horrible to cut a lot of the Global League maps that I did when I set up the Persistent/Rotation system, it just had to be done to keep the map lists fresh for the majority of AWBW players. Sahara will likely show up in Rotation Maps very soon, along with some other classics, for this month. If it's well liked, it definitely has a good chance of coming back next season.

As always, I appreciate and try my best to listen to all feedback from all players.
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Re: [outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

Post  Best Sakuya NA on Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:22 pm

Also, there's a new thread available here on the Persistent Maps for this Season, please drop by there to give your feedback on the current Persistent Maps, and which maps you might want to see in the future.

http://www.takeyourturn.net/t707-season-1-persistent-maps-poll-and-discussion-fri-10-oct-2014-tbd
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